UPS and Downs
May 12th, 2009Motor Headed Back to Kansas
Mish Weiss is in a bad state, as should be expected after a bone marrow transplant. I’m hoping this one works better than the last one. You would think marrow from a daughter would be more likely to take hold than marrow from a stranger. It’s comforting to believe, whether or not it’s true. She appreciates all prayers and comments.
I hope some of you will do me a favor and remember my cousin Debbie today. Her cancer involves her brain as well as her lungs. It amazes me, how many people in my family smoke. I can understand the older ones getting caught up in it, because the link between smoking and cancer wasn’t recognized by the US government until 1964. But why did the younger ones start?
Human beings are not driven primarily by reason. If we were, Barack Obama wouldn’t be President, and it would be impossible to get anyone to buy heroin. You would think that intelligence would make us happier and healthier than other creatures, but it hasn’t worked out that way. Intelligence is overrated; I’ve always said so. An ounce of character is worth a ton of intelligence. I’m smart, and I’ve done so many stupid things, I could never hope to remember a tenth of them.
Maybe I shouldn’t write about my lathe problems after saying a thing like that, but I will.
UPS, in its wisdom, sent my damaged motor back to Kansas. They provided no explanation. I have no idea whether they’re paying the seller anything toward the damage. It will be at least a week before I get a replacement.
Yesterday the new VFD arrived. I wired it up and held my breath, wondering if I might accidentally come up with a new way to destroy VFDs. I connected it to the ancient motor the lathe seller sent me, and it ran. Thank God. Literally.
When this motor arrived, it made a bonking sound when the shaft rotated, but now it’s quieter. I don’t know why. The shaft is still a mess, so it’s not possible to align the pulleys well. But the motor works. I’m thinking I should shove it into the lathe cabinet and use it until the Baldor arrives. I could rig it up without conduit for now, in order to make the Baldor installation easier.
If I could get the shaft out, I could use the lathe to take off the shaft burrs that make the pulleys sit at an angle. But I’d need a working motor to do that. I have a single-phase motor I could use, but to do that, I’d need to connect the drum switch. That would be a giant pain. I’ve stripped and degreased the drum switch, in preparation for wiring it to the VFD logic inputs. Besides, I’m sure the motor’s shaft is permanently attached to the rotor or stator or whatever the big thing covered with windings is. You could never mount that in a lathe chuck, unless the lathe was the size of a house.
I suppose a real genius would mount the motor on something solid and use it as a lathe. The shaft would turn, so it would be possible to apply a tool to it. But you’d have to have something solid to mount the tool on, and I think you can see what a Rube Goldberg mess it would be. If I were stranded somewhere and I had to fix the shaft in order to save my life, I’d give it a try, but as it is, it looks like a very bad idea.
I think I have enough crap now–here and in shipment–to use the lathe. I went crazy and sprung for Moly-Dee instead of cheap cutting fluid. The machinery snobs at PM seem to think Tap Magic is only fit for amateurs; they like Accu-lube (nearly impossible to find) and Moly-Dee (expensive). How often am I going to buy fluid? Once a year? I think buying the good stuff is a reasonable expense. I’m also going to get a gallon can of WD-40 for cutting aluminum. They have it at Home Depot.
I Ebayed a used 1/2″ 4-flute center-cutting carbide end mill. I might be able to rig the lathe up so I can use this to trim down the base for my quick change tool post. If not, it’s still a good cutter to have, and I think the total cost is ten bucks. I figured out how to put Enco’s 80-grit aluminum oxide wheels on my half-inch grinder arbors, so I have one of those on the way. I also got a silicon carbide dressing stick. I was not able to get a star-type dresser from Enco, and I didn’t feel like looking elsewhere and paying a big shipping fee for a four-dollar item.
I need some metal to train on. I’ve been watching Craigslist for scrap, but the one promising ad I saw did not produce a return phone call or email. I may have to drive to a metal dealer and pay up. I think I’ll get a couple of feet of bronze, some T6 aluminum, and some leaded steel. With WD-40 on hand, I can work aluminum right now.
What will I do? Don’t know. I guess I’ll start by chucking some aluminum and trying each type of tool, to see how everything works. I have a Clausing manual, but like most manuals for professional tools, it doesn’t tell you how to use the tool. It just tells you where the controls are. I plan to do what I used to do in my old science labs. I’ll make sequential lists of the things I need to do, in order to perform various operations. Then I’ll laminate them and put them near the lathe. This approach is a godsend for absent-minded people. If I had done this when I wired up the first VFD, it would still be working. I ruined that thing simply because I did not accommodate my known failings. The lesson was worth the expense. If you make a dumb mistake while running a lathe, it can mess you up good. A big lathe can roll your arm up like a bedroll, snapping the bones as required. I don’t know if this one can do that, but it can fire a chuck at me at great speed. This lathe should be pretty powerful. I’m using the biggest motor Clausing recommends, and I don’t have the vari-speed drive to sink horsepower. It’s just two belts and a gear or two.
I should make a list of operations I’ll do in order to train myself. That will simplify things and give me direction.
Lists are powerful things, if you have the character to make them and use them. Guess I’m looping now, so I’ll close.
May 12th, 2009 at 10:33 AM
run 3 phase lathe motor clamped to a table.
use a file to clean up the high spots
use emery cloth to polish shaft.
easy peasy. Make sure you don’t remove shaft material, just the burrs.
May 12th, 2009 at 12:09 PM
My first profession as a teen was rebuilding and selling old 5 hp horizontal shaft Briggs and Stratton engines to kids that had minibikes and go carts.
I could have neither a real job (I was supposed to be studying) and neither a go cart nor a mini bike was allowed in my yard but I could go to the local lawn mower repair shops and pay them $5 or $10 and haul away motors which were past their prime. Some of the blocks were good and some of the crankshafts were good and you could buy oversized pistions & rings and ream out the cylinders with a set of hand drill powered “stones” and when I was done I could sell a “rebuilt” motor with a new red or black crappy paint can paint job for $75. A new motor cost $150 at the time.
I built and sold a half dozen or so one summer along with some replacement vertical shaft lawnmower engines.
The point of this disertation is this. I learned that you could run the motor and place first a file and then finer and finer grades of sandpaper on the boogered up shafts and remove all the burrs most any idiot homeowner or kid could possibly put in the metal.
I suggest you do the same thing… Run the motor…thereby spinning the shaft and file/sand it smooth.
If the diameter becomes too small and otherwise a problem buy some thin shimstock and make yourself some shims to make the pulley clamp tight and run true.
May 12th, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I don’t think it’s possible. I don’t have enough room on the Workmate.
May 12th, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Steve,
Take some material, either steel or aluminum, turn it to a specific size, then thread it. By the time you do that a half-dozen times, you’ll be well on your way to being a lathe hand, if not an actual machinist.
If you’ve not gotten it yet, you really should have a copy of the Atlas lathe manual, but be certain to get one with the threading chapter/supplement. Not all versions have that, apparently. All the information you need to grind tools, turn metal, and cut threads is there. Although I got mine at Sears about 40 years ago, when Sears sold Atlas lathes, they’re still available from eBay and other sources.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
I was in awe of the kids who could make minibikes when I was a kid. My father got tenure as a math professor by sitting at his desk and staring out the window. Outside of teaching me how to wallpaper, I didn’t learn any handyman skills from him. I’m a cub scout den leader for the primary purpose of exposing my sons to practical skills that his long school days at yeshiva won’t be able to give him.
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“An ounce of character is worth a ton of intelligence.” Did you come up with that? I love it. I’m surprised I haven’t heard it before or said it myself. I grew up around John Nash-like brilliant people and never saw more than a small fraction as worthy of being a role model. I’d trust Palin’s character more than Obama’s so-called intelligence. The Talmud says a gibur (Hebrew for “hero” and root-stem word for the name Gabriel) is someone who conquers his own character. There are many Divine attributes that are found in the names of His angels and scriptural figures: Raphael (healer), Gabriel (hero), Uriel (light), Ariel (lion), Raziel (secret), Michael (who is like?), Tzadkiel (righteousness), Daniel (judgement), Nathaniel (gift)…
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I’ve never seen a name in scripture that is about the intelligence or genius or wisdom of God. It was the pagan Greeks that put genius and talent on pedestals, deifying those “touched by the gods”. They would forgive horrific character flaws by those who were “gifted”. When we see people rally to defend OJ Simpson (athlete/violence), Michael Jackson (musician/pedophilia), Bill Clinton (communicator/infidelity), Roger Clemens (strength/cheating), Paris Hilton (wealth/promiscuity), the brilliant loathsome intellectuals hoisted on their petards by Paul Johnson in his book Intellectuals — his antidote to worshiping the heros of academia — and others in the People Magazine Pantheon we witness people whose souls have imbibed bad values, pagan values, that scripture told us to raze.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:21 PM
[…] Pride 5:21 PM on May 12, 2009 by Robin S. In the first couple paragraphs on a post about his ongoing problems trying to get a lathe to work, Steve H. wrote the following: Human beings are not driven primarily by reason. If we were, Barack […]
May 12th, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Ahhh…og…the “Curse of the Workmate” finally comes back to bite me in the buttox….
May 12th, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Virge, it’s better than the Workmate biting your buttox.