Dough Nut
February 24th, 2022Pump up Your Pizza
I have been fiddling around with thin pizza, and I have figured out some things.
I love my recipe for thin pizza, but I am fairly sure it would be better if my oven were a little hotter. I got stuck with an old 500° oven. In addition to the temperature issue, it also blows a thermal fuse whenever I try to use the self-clean cycle. I can’t clean it unless I do it manually. That will not happen. I’m not sure why ovens have to be cleaned, however. They seem to work fine whether you clean them or not. Is cleaning just a vanity thing, or will my oven eventually explode?
The oven also has a display that has grown so dim, I have to use reading glasses to read it.
My oven in Miami went to 550°. I have been looking around for something new that will do that. I learned that many brands only go up to 500° in bake mode, which is ridiculous, given that pizza making is more popular than ever. You can bake a good New York pizza at 500°, but hotter is better.
I discovered that Frigidaire, the manufacturer of my last oven, still makes hot ovens. I started trying to find one that will work for me.
Of course, ovens have changed a lot since the last time I bought one. They have a lot of silly “smart” features I don’t want. Why on Earth would I want to talk to my oven from across town? It’s bad enough getting distress calls from the vacuum cleaner. Smart features just add expense and more risk of failure. I guarantee you, your smart 2022 smart oven has parts that won’t be available in 2027.
Ovens with phone apps are patently stupid, like refrigerators that send you movies of their contents, but ovens have other new features that could be great.
I have learned about oven spring. This term refers to the way bread blows up when you put it in the oven. I thought I could get peak oven spring with any old oven, but that’s wrong. To get good oven spring, you need steam in your oven when baking starts. Steam keeps the outside of your bread elastic so the bread can puff up. You can force your old oven to do steam by putting things like skillets full of water-soaked rocks in it, but it’s a pain, and it’s not optimal. They now make ovens that do steam baking, imitating the ovens real bakers use.
Today I baked a pizza, and when I put it in the oven, I threw about a quarter-cup of water in the oven below it. This helped the dough blow up beautifully, but you can’t keep throwing water in an oven that isn’t made for it. I found a Frigidaire that has a steam-bake setting. Will it work? I don’t know, but it’s worth a try.
New ovens also have better convection and air-fry capabilities, and it’s not hard to find one that has a probe to measure the internal temperature of meats. You can also find ovens that somehow skip the preheat business, and you can get ovens that proof bread.
I found a Frigidaire that does all this stuff. Man, is it expensive. I know I’m cheap, but $2300 for a single oven seems like a lot to me. It could be worse. Other ovens break the $4000 mark.
I’ll post a photo of today’s pizza. You can see how big the air holes in the crust are. Very nice. Unfortunately, the cheese I used is disgusting. I decided to try Boar’s Head provolone, and for some reason, the only provolone they make is the low-sodium kind. I decided to try it, thinking maybe all provolone was low-sodium cheese. The pizza just didn’t taste right. Also, I fermented the pizza too fast because I was in a hurry, and that didn’t help the taste.
I learned something else about oven spring. If you rest your dough before turning it into a ball or loaf, it will spring better.
I make phenomenal Sicilian pizza. I make the dough in a food processor, I make a puck out of it, I put it in a very oily pan, and I let it rest for around 20 minutes. After the time is up, the dough, which was initially more like hard, lumpy batter, is smooth and stretchy. At this point, I stretch it to fit the inside of the pan and let it rise again. It’s always magnificent.
I had read that thin pizza (and baguettes) needed to be stretchy and tight before final proofing, and today, I thought about those Sicilian pies and that stretchy dough.
This afternoon, I tried resting dough for thin pizza. Using the food processor, I blended everything but the oil and waited 10 minutes, for sound reasons which escape me at the moment. Then I processed the oil in and waited 20 more minutes. Then I kneaded the dough in my hands a few times to move the outside in and the inside out, and I formed it into a ball. The ball had a nice, tight surface, and when I put it in the toaster oven to proof, it stood up nicely instead of flattening out the way my dough balls used to.
Combined with the steam, the resting helped the dough puff up in the oven.
Obviously, you have to ask which change made the most difference: the steam or the resting. Answer: the resting. I think. I made two pizzas today, and I didn’t add water to the oven the first time until the pizza had already been baking for several minutes, so I don’t think the steam did much. Both pizzas were made with rested dough, and both blew up well. The second one was better, but the improvement between it and the first one was smaller than the improvement between the first one and the ones I used to make.
I’m trying to convince myself to buy the Frigidaire, and I plan to rest my dough from now on. And I’m not buying any more Boar’s Head provolone.
Under Biden, we now have an oven shortage, so I feel like I need to get an oven right away, before things get worse. The Frigidaire is on sale for about 10% off, which is remarkable given the supply chain problems.
Rhodah and I have been praying for Biden, and today we prayed for the leaders of Russia and Ukraine and their people. We didn’t just offer bland, “Oh, please prevent war,” prayers. We prayed for God to correct people and help them to become Spirit-led. I think it’s dumb to pray for things to go well for people without praying for God to correct and repair them.
We also prayed for special protection for God’s children in these countries. God’s children; not everyone. Most people are not God’s children, and many people can’t be helped because of their rebellion. Many have come under curses they will just have to put up with until they repent.
I have not been keeping up with the news, but I can’t help hearing some things, so I know about Russia and Ukraine. Would Putin have attacked with a functioning chief executive in office? I don’t know, but I don’t see how Putin could pass up the chance to run wild with Biden in charge. America is much weaker now that Trump is gone, and of course, this matters to our enemies. They will pull things they would never have tried with Trump or even Obama.
Obama didn’t put America first, and our enemies often played him for a fool, but he was also warlike and egotistical, so he didn’t always roll over.
If I were Putin, Xi, or Kim Jong Un, I would be thrilled to be up against Biden. They must have been ecstatic when Trump lost.
My friend Mike has a pal who hates Trump. Before Biden won, this person said he would rather see America destroyed than see Trump reelected. A lot of people felt this way, and now they’re eating their words. Very sad. I would rather see Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, AOC, or even Whoopi Goldberg elected rather than see my country destroyed.
Whether we could elect any of these people without destroying America is another question.
I don’t know how serious the Ukraine situation is for America. I have no idea whether there is or is not a danger of a world war. I do know the apocalypse has started, however, so I suppose anything is possible.
I have been putting dry food in containers in case I need it, and I’ve considered getting an upright freezer for meat. I found out I needed to make sure I didn’t get a frostproof model.
In the past, freezers kept food in good shape for a very long time. They were not frostproof, and they didn’t have warm cycles. Frostproof freezers actually warm up every so often. It ruins food.
If you put ice cream in a frostproof freezer and leave it unopened, it will degrade. The ice crystals will melt and refreeze over and over, and the refrozen crystals will be a lot bigger than the original ones. This ruins ice cream’s texture. The same thing happens in other foods.
Apparently, you have to avoid frostproof freezers or eat your frozen food pretty quickly, which defeats the purpose of a freezer. I don’t look forward to defrosting a freezer once a year, but it sounds better than eating freezer burn.
Maybe I’ll get a freezer. Might as well have decent food while everything disintegrates.

February 25th, 2022 at 11:09 AM
Hi Steve,
I’ve seen a number of YT videos extolling the virtue of a baking steel over stone. One advantage mentioned was better results for ovens that top out at 500 deg. Your thoughts on stone vs. steel?
As to ovens, I use commercial equipment in my residential kitchen and I’ve been very happy with the outcomes. A quick search here in my AO shows new Blodgett gas convection ovens at around the same price as the Frigidaire you’re considering.
I’ve avoided upright freezers and use instead a non-frost free chest freezer that hold contents at -10F. This has worked well for long(er) term food storage for me. Organization is easy with very affordable food service carb (polycarbonate) boxes.
Always enjoy and learn something from your pizza adventures. Thanks.
February 25th, 2022 at 10:14 PM
If you are worried about ice cream, just eat it promptly. We have a non self defrost in the garage and a frost free in the house. Ice cream will do the same in either one if it is left for too long.
I am currently campaigning for a new fridge/freezer in the house so I can put the old one in the garage and get rid of the old frosty freezer. Dick is very good about being the one who defrosts it, but within a week it is frosting up again. I think it needs to go. It will save him a days work. He is 86 and doesn’t need that. And as they say, my story and I’m sticking to it.
It is hard to make myself pray for my enemies, they are so evil, but so are many in my country. The ones who kill babies, born or unborn, sexually abuse people, girls,boys, women and men, are just as evil as a despot who kills with his armies. But I try, and I know there are innocents in those countries who need God’s protection from the evil that is happening, just as there are people in our country who need His protection from evil.
We are seeing our judgement play out before us. And I am worrying about a freezer and looking at a newer travel trailer to place at my son’s house so I will have my own space there. (He has 4 Great Pyrenees and one mutt). I feel confident in my salvation, but the human side of me wants comfort on earth. I am old and feeling it. I’m ready when God is.
February 26th, 2022 at 4:13 PM
“Your thoughts on stone vs. steel?”
I have no idea. I was going to try steel today, but I forgot and used my old stone. Maybe I’ll try again in a couple of days.
I also forgot to put sugar in the dough, which is unfortunate, because it’s nowhere near as good.
“A quick search here in my AO shows new Blodgett gas convection ovens at around the same price as the Frigidaire you’re considering.”
When I started looking at ovens, all the sources said electric was better for baking, so I figured that was the way to go. Also, putting gas in this house would not be easy.
“If you are worried about ice cream, just eat it promptly.”
So, Ruth, you’re saying I should abandon all pretense of self-control.
February 26th, 2022 at 5:03 PM
I have had both stone and steel. The steel is superior in every way except weight. In my case the weight of the steel caused my oven racks to get a bit saggy. Your mileage may vary, as we really didn’t spend a whole lot on our range.
February 27th, 2022 at 12:36 PM
I’m working on a pie right now. As I have probably said, I have a piece of steel I was going to turn into a griddle, and today I tried to fit it in the oven. It’s too big. The new oven has a bigger interior, so maybe I’ll be able to use the steel.