You Can’t Stop the Signal
November 8th, 2018But You Still Have to Tune In
I have been listening to Derek Prince today. I can’t get over it. He died in 2003, but it’s as if he read my old blog entries and used them to make notes for his lectures. He is all about getting rid of demonic influence.
For years, I’ve been saying that any compulsion or feeling you can’t control has to be demonic. If you don’t want a compulsion or feeling, it can’t be coming from you. It must be foreign. Prince says the same thing.
In the movies, Catholic priests perform exorcisms on people who seem very happy to hold onto their demons. In real life, Prince performed exorcisms on people who desperately wanted to be free. It didn’t matter that the behaviors and attitudes brought them pleasure along with the pain. They wanted to be released.
I turned back to God over 11 years ago, and before I started backsliding in the first place, I listened to a lot of preachers. I have had my share of indoctrination. Nonetheless, I have only heard two preachers say gluttony is sinful, and only one of those preachers connected compulsive overeating to demons.
God told me gluttony was demonic in 2009. Preachers weren’t interested in learning the truth and passing it on to people in need of help, so God told me directly. How can that be? Jesus died on the cross 2,000 years ago, and preachers are still extremely ignorant and ineffective. It proves the human race is hopeless. We can’t succeed no matter what God does for us.
Wait and see. When Jesus returns and rules from a throne here on earth, and Satan and all demons are bound, sin and rebellion won’t go away. Many of us will still destroy ourselves. We are astounding.
Prince says addiction is demonic. Hello? How long have I been saying that? I’ve seen Christians defend cigarette smoking. It doesn’t get you high, they say, so it’s not a sin. How can deliberate submission to drug addiction not be a sin? How can it not be a sin, if you choose to take up an extremely addictive habit which causes heart attacks, strokes, COPD, and cancer? How can it not involve a foreign entity if you can’t stop even when you’re desperate?
Prince says something remarkable: he claims David Wilkerson’s policy was to refuse to help any addict who insisted on continuing to smoke cigarettes. The demon of nicotine addiction keeps the door open so the other demons of addiction can return.
My experience with Derek Prince underscores the importance of prolonged prayer in tongues. When you pray in tongues, God puts information in your mind. God tells everyone the exact same things. The reason we’re ignorant isn’t that God withholds knowledge. It’s that we don’t go after it his way. You can’t tell God how to do things. He decided prayer in tongues was an essential method of disseminating knowledge, and that’s that. You don’t get to vote on it.
It’s very important to realize we don’t get to vote on God’s methods. The kingdom of heaven isn’t a democracy. How can a kingdom be a democracy? The very idea is absurd. We can nudge God a little bit, but his ways are his ways, and his heart is harder than a diamond when we try to make him change.
Sound knowledge comes only with the help of the Holy Spirit. You can’t get it by sitting in a library. The history of Christianity is full of scholars who were wrong about everything. Bible study and book study are wonderful, but without the Holy Spirit, you will draw the wrong conclusions. God isn’t glorified by your brilliant, unaided deductions, and if you want him to help you, God has to have the glory.
Man, I get tired of feel-good prosperity preachers. Every time I get a revelation or hear from someone else who has one, I think about the stinking garbage I’ve heard from preachers who wanted my money and cared nothing about me. Why did they have to waste my time? They prolonged my suffering. They magnified my problems. They increased Satan’s power over me. They brought curses on themselves and their families.
I would have been better off giving them money and not listening to them.
Before Prince, no preacher gave me really good advice on getting free from spirits. Not one. Not…one. They didn’t give me good advice on defeating the flesh or becoming sanctified. They gave me little bits of table scraps here and there. After 2,000 years, every preacher ought to be able to lay out a banquet. If 2,000 years aren’t enough, how long do they need?
I can give you a ton of advice about tithes and offerings. It’s all wrong, but I can do it, because my ears have been pumped full of it for so long. You have to give God 10% of your GROSS INCOME, minimum! If you owe people and businesses money, don’t pay them until you’ve given large prosperity offerings to preachers! Make sure you give God a large monetary offering on Pentecost, Yom Kippur, and Passover, because God will open the windows of heaven and rain blessings down on you! If nothing happens, it means you didn’t give enough, or you didn’t give with a cheerful heart, so take the loss and start over by giving even more! Make sure you command thousands of financial angels to bring you money, because God is totally okay with human beings ordering angels around!
I heard some preacher–I think it was Kenneth Copeland–tell people God didn’t reward their offerings because they didn’t bring their offerings “into the temple.” The idea was that you are supposed to physically go to your church and hand them your offering, because church is the temple. I’m not making it up. He apparently could not tell the difference between the temple in Jerusalem and a local church.
One wonders why he didn’t tell people this BEFORE their offerings fizzled.
He probably got an earful from his fellow TV preachers when he talked about “the temple,” because obviously, if you live in Oregon, you can’t walk to Benny Hinn’s church in Orlando and give him your money in person. You might start giving your crazy offerings to your local church, and then Don Benny wouldn’t get to wet his beak.
Every once in a while, one of the prosperity-pumpers will get excited and say something that actually threatens his grift, and then they have to backtrack.
You have to “manage” your blessings. I heard that from Denny Duron, who is about as toxic as preachers get. When you receive money, run down to your church and give them a big chunk of it right away so God will know how grateful you are. And remember what Joyce Meyer says: don’t be afraid to demand financial help from God, because if you’re a tither and giver, he OWES you, and you have a supernatural RECEIPT you can show him.
You owe the one you flogged and nailed to a cross.
All of this ridiculous advice is Satanic excrement which will make you poorer and drive God away from you, but I know it very well because many preachers did their best to beat it into me. The stuff that works, I heard directly from God, except for little isolated pieces of information.
I can’t figure out who has done me more harm. People who absolutely hate God and do everything they can to tempt and discourage me, or preachers. Worldly people have exerted a terrible influence on me, but at least they didn’t put me to sleep and convince me I was on the right track with God while I was actually destroying myself.
Isn’t anyone on my side?
I don’t trust human beings to tell me anything any more. Not even Prince. Without confirmation, forget it.
Prince is not perfect. In one of his lectures, he talks about a conversation he had with a demon. If an exorcist goes to work on a person, and demons speak, the exorcist can’t help hearing them. Nothing wrong with that. There is also nothing wrong with asking a spirit to identify itself. You can exchange a few words with a demon without getting in trouble, but anything beyond that is dangerous. I heard Prince tell about a long conversation he had with a demon that claimed it had followed him from Africa.
He asked the demon to tell him things it couldn’t know unless it had been to certain places in Africa, and it gave him the right answers. He should not have asked or listened. Demons are liars, and they will use every opportunity to deceive and sow problems. If you start questioning a demon, you give it permission to mess with you. You’re inviting it to do what it does best.
I listened to Prince, and I started to feel discouraged. I thought, “If these things can follow you all over the planet, and they have unlimited information about you, what chance do we have?” Later I realized I was falling into a trap. The demon wanted to discourage people by making his organization seem invincible and all-knowing. Prince should not have talked about it. He was probably set up.
Demons are small and weak, and they don’t know everything. God is the one with all the power and knowledge, and he makes us winners and them losers.
He shouldn’t have conversed with a demon, but he did pick up some interesting information while demons spoke without prompting. He encountered demons of bad doctrine. One kept saying, “No pork! No bacon!” This explains the Seventh-Day Adventist error. The New Testament makes it abundantly clear, in more than one place, that Christians don’t have to obey dietary laws, but Seventh-Day Adventists are completely blind about it. Refer them to scripture, and they won’t even look. They’ll just quote Leviticus or whatever, as though Peter and Paul didn’t count. Irrationality is a hallmark of demonic influence.
The world is supposed to make sense. When it does not, look for a supernatural reason.
The prosperity-pumpers listen to religious demons that tell them we are under the law of tithing. I’d rather be wrong about pork than money. I can live without pork, but poverty caused by misguided tithing and giving is a disaster.
I have to continue with sanctification. I haven’t finished going through my books, and I still have some counterproductive music on devices I haven’t purged. I don’t know how clean I can get, but I want to get whatever is available.
I expect to go to church again this weekend. Not sure what will come of that. The pastor is doing a series on ending anxiety. Unfortunately, it’s useless. He is focusing on human effort. If you want to find out how unbelieving human beings fight anxiety, buy self-help books and get a shrink. They’ll do a much better job than a preacher.
A certain amount of worry and fear is unavoidable, but if it’s a real problem, look for disobedience in your life, repent, and go after the spirits that unsettle you. Getting rid of the disobedience will take the keys away from them, and then you can cast them out with a realistic expectation of lasting relief. The pastor at Meadowbrook Church didn’t say that, because he doesn’t know about it. His church is part of the Willow Creek movement, and the main focus of that movement is increasing the size of churches. They admit that. They don’t like to say anything that might bother people. In that regard, they are very different from Jesus. Of all the words in the Bible, the red ones are the most painful to read.
I don’t know how long the series will be. One thing to be happy about: the services are really short.
I haven’t met anyone new there. They shoot you through the place like poop through a goose, so not much sticks to you.
I’m going to get free, one way or the other. I won’t let the abysmal failure of contemporary clergy stop me. I can’t seem to exert any influence at all on churches, so I expect to continue watching people around me sink.
November 8th, 2018 at 4:06 PM
” If you owe people and businesses money, don’t pay them until you’ve given large prosperity offerings to preachers!”
Didn’t Aaron of Aaron’s CC say years ago in comments this is exactly backwards in the Jewish tradition, that you shouldn’t be tithing if you are in debt?
November 8th, 2018 at 6:13 PM
He’s going to miss out on Steve Munsey’s Blessing of Groundhog Day.
November 9th, 2018 at 7:19 PM
I don’t “tithe”.
I invest large amounts in the gospel.
Jesus spoke of investing in the Kingdom.
We should use that model.
Bankroll a startup missionary, demand results.
Find ministries that show returns.
November 10th, 2018 at 5:29 AM
I actually labored under the tithing burden for a lot of years. Now I pray over what to give, and support what I think I should. I don’t have a home church, so I give money to support ministries I think are effective. Nobody is perfect…we’re all human. But some investments are better bets than others, and I think the best we can do sometimes is the least worst option.
You make an interesting point about Jesus’ rule on earth, and how even then we’ll still find ways to screw up. Never really thought about it, but would a “perfect” people even need a “ruler?” Probably not. So it would suggest that even during the millennial reign, folks will still be human and imperfect, and still need an authority to correct and guide them.
Everything I read and listen to, I try to do under the covering of the Holy Spirit. Humans are not infallible, so yeah, Derek Prince is rock solid, but you still need to be discerning because he won’t get everything right.
Great post. Thanks.